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Vinnie Rossi LIO review (Part 3 – DAC & AVC/Tubestage combo)

  • What’s best: Smarties or Skittles? The sugar-coated chocolate of the Rowntree (Nestle) bean or the sugar-shelled, fruit-flavoured corn syrup ball from Mars? Do Smarties have the answer or do you prefer to taste the rainbow?

    Perhaps you can already taste the ridiculousness: with each sugar ball satisfying one’s desire for a little sweetness, the notion of best is sideswiped by a matter of taste. In this tight subset of the confectionary market, there is no best, only personal preference.

    In audio land, narrowing product categories and price ranges can also see final arbitration fall to one’s preferred flavour. That’s especially true for music servers, streamers and, to a lesser extent, D/A converters. Differences can be subtle at best. For example, on the spectrum of transient delivery we might place Skittles’ citrus zing at one end and the mellower slow burn of Smarties’ cocoa solids at the other.


    Vinnie Rossi LIO – the story so far. The mains-decoupled PURE-DC-4EVR power supply (covered here) waves buh-bye to fancy schmancy power cords. Replacing the usual transformer + power supply arrangement of traditional amplifiers, two banks of ultracapacitors juice the LIO’s motherboard.

    Except this isn’t just an amplifier. LIO doesn’t even have to drive loudspeakers. Into its ultracapacitor-powered motherboard board go plugin modules (covered here) such that it can run as phono stage, DAC, pre-amplifier, loudspeaker amplifier, headphone amplifier or any combination thereof.

    Unifying separate boxes into one is nothing new but modular construction is. Within the LIO, each internalised component can be swapped out for a updated version as it becomes available from Rossi’s Massachusetts HQ. He recently added a balanced socket option to the input board. If a new amplifier module presents we need not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

    The DAR review unit arrived in early 2015 kitted out with MM/MC phono stage module (US$895), input module (US$295), resistor volume control (RVC) module (US$395), JJ E88CC tube buffer module (US$795), headphone module (US$695) and MOSFET loudspeaker module (US$895).


    As we’ve seen previously, both the headphone and phono modules are over-achievers in their specific fields. Moreover, the ultra-low output impedance / high current supply of the twin ultracap banks means the LIO refuses to choke on Magnepan MMG (see here) or, this commentator’s other entry-level fav, the KEF LS50.

    In emulating long-term LIO ownership, the DAC module and Dave Slagle’s Autoformer-infused volume control (AVC) would arrive down the line.

    That future has now arrived.

    As might already be obvious, updates to the LIO system don’t land via (free) internet download a la Devialet but as (optional, $) hardware modules for which you pop the lid and plug them into the motherboard. If you can change a graphics card in a PC, you’re good to go with LIO swapperoos.

    The DAC module (US$895) is a two-tier construction with asynchronous USB, optical and BNC inputs handled by its lower deck and a pair of AKM4399 – one per channel – handling decoding and output staging upstairs. The two tiers separate for increased modularity and, as it would transpire, easier installation.

    I documented the process with moving pictures:

    Of interest to those who like to dabble on the margins of music supply USB file format, the DAC’s format support takes in PCM up to 32bit/384kHz and DSD128. My own audio diet centres on Redbook meals with the occasional hi-res snack.

    As alternative to the externalised Schiit Bifrost multibit, the LIO module brings forth greater presence region pep and cleaner separation. Genetically closer to Chord Electronic’s Mojo, the LIO DAC trades in some of the Brit’s X-ray detail analysis in favour of its own tonal colour and midrange liquidity.

    In other words, draw a direct line between the Schiit’s euphony and the Chord’s keen-but-lean resolve and the LIO decoder places itself two thirds of the way towards the battery-powered brick.

    The Rossi DAC module tips its sweetness scales towards Skittles’ fructose zing – but only just. On micro-dynamic flicker and jump factor, it steps ahead of both the Schiit and, to a lesser extent, the Chord. Details dart to the surface faster than either rival which in turns wakes the KEF LS50 standmounts from their low SPL slumber a little earlier.

    The reward for keeping things in house is snappier microscopic detail delivery at lower volumes. And with the LIO and its modules completely immune to mains supply perturbations, which disturb some more than others, we get that 3am power supply feeling all day and all night. Struck dumb too are conversations regarding power cords and interconnects.

    But I felt the tubes – and to a lesser extent the RVC – were standing in the way of yet more avidity.


    In came the new(er) AVC/tube combo module – Dave Slagle’s autoformer volume control coupled to Rossi’s tube stage but rolled into one board – US$2195. Moveable jumpers, like those that turn a hard drive from master to slave and back again, allow this two-fer to be run in passive or tube mode. (Tweezers are recommended).

    From the “[The AVC] is 100% passive and sonically transparent with the entire signal path consisting of only pure magnet wire and high quality switching elements made by Pickering in England.”

    What is an autoformer? For an explanation we look to Slagle’s own Intact Audio FAQ:

    “An autoformer (short for autotransformer) is a special type of transformer with an especially simple winding arrangement…an ordinary transformer has separate primary (input) and secondary (output) windings, while an autoformer shares some part of the winding between the two.”

    “… an ordinary transformer provides DC isolation between the input and output windings. In many applications this is an important feature. However, when DC isolation is not required then an autoformer will often outperform an ordinary transformer.”

    Another module install means another video:

    For anyone undecided on the AVC vs RVC, know that the former convingly aces the latter on transparency and caffeination, both of which (unexpectedly) proved to be more crucial to the Spatial M4 open-baffle floorstanders need for wide-eyed acuity in peeling back musical layers than the aforementioned KEFs. That was vinyl playback – a Rega RP6 w/ Exact cartridge.

    Doubling down on Rossi DAC and AVC (run passive i.e. without tubes) we get twice the tonal impregnation. That’s a win-win for the percussive tick-tocks that underpin Underworld’s Oblivion With Bells and System 7’s Point 3: Fire – tech-ish flavours like these put cleanliness next to Godliness. But is it a shade too hygienic for those seeking back-of-the-hand tenderness from Neil Young’s “Old Man” from Live at The Cellar Door? Re-engaging the tubes rounds the corners of Young’s piano but also obfuscates front to back soundstage delineation and applies a hair drier- albeit at a distance – to guitar string pluck.

    Smarties-styled softness doesn’t come without a slight hit to the Slagleformer’s hyperreality. When run without bottles we get a heightened sense of in-the-moment presence. Passive all the way is this reviewer’s overall preference for late night, low SPL listening that won’t disturb the neighbours. But it might not be yours. The point is that you (and I) have the option to switch things up without too much hassle.

    Customisation not only applies to the LIO’s functional role/s but to the seasoning of its sonic flavour. RVC or AVC. Tubes in or tubes out. Move beyond the stock JJs and into NOS bottle territory for even finer gradations. Nailing the LIO’s audible personality is an almost impossible task. It’s beyond bipolar. Don’t need tubes? The original AVC-only module remains available and sells for US$1495.

    Differences brought by volume control module change up proved to be far more pronounced than those afforded by Devialet’s own software updates to its Expert series.


    LIO or Expert 200 (reviewed by yours truly for 6moons here)?

    On sound, we return to where we came in – matters of taste. Both super integrateds were run with their respective D/A converters handling a USB feed from an AURALiC Aries, nursed by the Wyred4Sound Recovery (covered here).

    When paired with the KEF LS50, Rossi’s 25wpc MOSFET loudspeaker drive is by no means dwarfed by the Expert’s 170wpc (into 8 Ohms) on raw SPLs. The Expert only pulls ahead with marginally tighter control of low end wallop, such that it presents via these standmounts.

    With resistor volume control and tube stage in tow, the LIO is resolutely more Smarties than Skittles. Those who find the KEF’s metal dome tweeter a little too lively might find their preference lands right here. At the Skittles end of the spectrum, the Expert 200’s sharper eye for textural minutiae lifts the listener’s head – a little too fruity up top for those who prefer tonal balance with a lower centre of gravity?

    I’d take the seductive American for going late night with Mark Hollis’ eponymous solo effort and Neil Young’s acoustic live cuts but the Frenchman for handling electronic fare like Underworld and System 7.

    The Spatial M4 open baffle loudspeaker benefits more from the RVC-to-AVC costume change. Here the Slagle-former’s openness and transparency sounds more free and easy, dissolving the Devialet’s earlier advantage with dynamic hip thrust. Up in smoke too goes hardware preference according to music genre.

    With tubes bypassed, the AVC-d LIO unearths nine tenths of the Expert 200’s detail whist applying more gloss to tonal colours and showing a greater sense of fluidity. Our LIO candy bowl is now split 70-30 in favour of Skittles, the Devialet 90-10. With more agreeable loudspeaker loads, combined performance indicators for each super-integrated – resolution, dynamics, tonality – becomes too close to call. Crikey!

    Eyeing wallet damage gives us the clearest view of the LIO’s sonic prowess. Apples and apples demands we drop the headphone amplifier from the LIO config and downgrade the AVC/Tube module to AVC only. The DAC and phono stage remain on board – just like the US$9650 Devialet. Our similarly configured LIO says hello for considerably fewer dollars: US$6970. Now LIO spells Less Incidental Opulence. In other words, razor sharp value. Looking at it from the top down: returning headphone stage and tubes to the AVC board still keeps us south of the French border at US$8365.


    Devialet’s loudspeaker correction might be the better choice for those already in possession of SAM-d speakers but forum feedback points to mixed results depending on make/model. For headphonistas, the LIO is the only way to go.

    For digitising LPs or having on demand USB-/SPDIF conversion, you’d ask the Expert. Allergic to software config and updates and prefer to get hands-on with upgrades? LIO. Want to leave the door open to alternative hardware connectivity? LIO again. Don’t assume that the Expert is the obvious choice for network audio – Rossi has a Roon Ready streamer in the oven and will likely be the focus of Part 4 in this ongoing series of LIO-related posts.

    Like the Devialet, the Vinnie Rossi LIO is jack of all trades, master of all trades. What separates it from its more handsome rival is its guts’ upgradeability. Next to the locked down and heavily styled hardware of Devialet’s low-risers, the LIO looks positively old school. Appearances can be – and are – deceptive. Vinnie Rossi’s hardware grows (and contracts) with you; future obsolescence just can’t get a foothold. That this future-proofing can be housed in a single chassis and enjoy high current power from an off-grid DC supply makes the LIO system one of the most revolutionary audio products on the market today.


    Further information: Vinnie Rossi


    John Darko

    Written by John Darko

    John currently lives in Berlin where creates videos and podcasts and pens written pieces for Darko.Audio. He has also contributed to 6moons, TONEAudio, AudioStream and Stereophile.

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    1. Nicely done, John. With the DHT (direct-heated triode) module coming up next, the never-ending story that is LIO will continue -:)

      • Yes indeed – looking forward to seeing how that plays out for ya. And Vinnie’s cooking up something else even more out there to go with DAR’s Part 4.

    2. Hi John,

      Thank you for posting the best “part 3” of any review that I’ve ever seen!
      I really appreciate all your time in effort with this one – especially the two
      videos. Nice work as always!


    3. John-

      Great review. I’ve been waiting to hear what you thought of the LIO DAC. Love that you compared the LIO to the Devialet – an obvious comparison that needs to be made.
      The value proposition is an interesting one; of course the Devialet units have a LOT more power than the LIO amp, which could be a consideration for many.
      Question: I see neither unit is on your Darko DAC index. Will they be put there?

      • They will…eventually (but not yet).

        On paper the Dev has more power, yes. In reality in doesn’t feel that much more than the LIO’s 25wpc when juicing the LS50. But of course, if you’ve super inefficient loudspeakers (e.g. 83db) then the Dev might (*might*) be the way to go.

    4. Hi John,

      It seems like the AVC modules (passive) made an impression on you, especially in tandem with more efficient speakers like the M4.. Now when the new DHT module comes out it would be interesting how Vinnie would implement it with an already tight space within the LIO.. A line OPT with AVC on the output would require more real estate, so maybe a CCS or gyrator load on the DHT is possibly in the works.. It could potentially unleash some reach out and touch it holographic DHT cream.. I’m also thinking triode stapped Russian NOS DHP’s could work for minimal outlay on glass.

    5. Agree with Danny – the comparison of LIO and Devialet Expert is hot stuff. A number of folks (myself included) have been waiting with baited breath for your review and it did not disappoint in this regard (or any regard for that matter). Although you don’t mention the Devialet Phantom system which, although a different kettle of fish given that speakers are integrated, is still a competitor to the LIO and a better (financial) value.

      Keep up the great work!


    6. With the DHT module already taking up the space of the AVC and headphone module (the latter can be relocated atop the DHT module), there’s no room to add the AVC as well. Vinnie is readying a special version of the RVC to go with the DHT. At least that’s my understanding at present…

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